The Ultimate Diamond/Raphael Questions Thread [Archive]

TouchProMoFo

08-06-2008, 08:25 AM

Not that I'm a genius on the subject, but most people in this forum (no offense) seem to be clueless about the Diamond/Touch Pro. Release dates, form factors, memory, batteries, whatever whatever... If you have a question, ask it, and I'll most likely be able to give an answer. This makes it easier than trying to sort through 20 different threads and answer everyone's questions.

Unregistered

08-06-2008, 08:12 PM

Hey, so I want to buy a touch screen phone and Im currently stuck with two choices: either the LG Dare or the HTC Diamond. Since you know so much about the Diamond, do you think it is better than the Dare?

TouchProMoFo

08-06-2008, 09:18 PM

If you were to get an unlocked Diamond with full hardware specs, made how HTC designed it, absolutely. With the way Verizon has crippled it with less RAM and no accelerometer, I'm not so sure. I think it's a toss-up at this point, the one thing that always bothered me about the Dare is the fish on the desktop that always lag... Why would you implement an animation from the factory that lags even without other programs being used? A small pet peeve, perhaps... But beyond my comprehension. Honestly, I'll tell everyone who has VZW this when it comes to the Diamond, including my friends... Wait for an unlocked CDMA version to become available, and get that. Don't settle for a lesser version of the phone you want.
Another thing I figured I'd add, do you use your phone for taking a lot of pictures? The #1 thing the Dare blows other phones away in is camera quality. Absolutely stunning for a phone, much better than the Diamond's (even though the MP rating is the same).

Unregistered

08-07-2008, 01:06 AM

Do you think it will be posible to get the diamond without internet subscription. I really don't use the phone for internet, mostly for music and photos. I heard VZW doesn't sell smart phones without internet subscription, so I was wondering if it would be the same for the Diamond.

Kronk

08-07-2008, 08:10 PM

I believe you can indeed get it without an internet subscription, but you would have to pay full NO CONTRACT price for the phone.

Note: They might try to tell you that you need a plan, but if you swap the handset online, they dont notice.

TouchProMoFo

08-07-2008, 08:24 PM

You'll probably be able to buy it without a subscription even from some service providers, depends on who though.

Unregistered

08-08-2008, 03:51 AM

Note: They might try to tell you that you need a plan, but if you swap the handset online, they dont notice.[/QUOTE]

what do you mean by that? how do you swap the handset online?

Unregistered

08-08-2008, 04:05 AM

Just get an unlocked version from one of the many online phone retailers ;). This way you choose the plan you are on and don't have to pay for sth you won't use.

Kronk

08-09-2008, 06:00 AM

Well sprint and verizon allow you to swap phones online. You just need an ESN #. If you were to call or go in, they will push a date plan on you. Thats just how they work.

Unregistered

08-09-2008, 10:15 PM

Yes you can buy a winmo smartphone without a data plan for verizon. It costs you an extra $100 or you buy the data plan and just terminate it after 90 days. So if you get the $30 you mind as well keep it for 3 months get the service and then ditch it when you can.

question for me now.

I have a normal flip phone, nothing special the LG 8300 and i was thinking about getting one of the following phones: LG Dare, VX6900 or wait the extra few months to get the HTC Diamond for vzw. I know they really ****ed up the diamond but i think it will still be better than the vx6900 because of the new touchflo, wifi, and gps. I also can't afford the data plan which is why i thought i should wait. I am just going to use the phone for personal use, i need help getting organized and why buy a plain PDA device when i can just use a cell phone such as this.

Kronk

08-10-2008, 05:19 AM

Okay...so you didn't really ask a question, but if you are going to get a new phone and it HAS to be one of those, i would say Diamond.

The Dare's interface (UI) is not as nice as HTC's TouchFLO 3D. However, the Diamond still has WINMOB and you will have to use some of the very poorly designed features it comes it. It isn't the most media rich UI for a phone. TouchFLO 3D does give it a HUGE boost though.

Dare = Better camera
Diamond = Better UI/ Better looking/ Easier to customize!!!!!!

Unregistered

08-11-2008, 03:51 PM

Hi,
Can anyone tell me what would be the launch date for HTC Diamond or HTC Victor on sprints network. Becauase I did talk with some of the executives in sprint corporate but they do not have any info on that, and on the other side on the phonearena.com it says 9/2/2008....

apb91781

08-11-2008, 04:04 PM

Kronk

08-11-2008, 08:18 PM

Any phone that runs WM5/6 is capable of using "TouchFLO" due to the fact of a 3rd party software out there that uses a small flash application and a flash program to emulate it. its really nice.

I have used that 'emulator' and it is no where near as nice as the REAL TouchFLO 3D. I stress the 3D aspect.

As for the other individuals post...Diamond all the way!

apb91781

08-11-2008, 08:31 PM

meh works pretty good for me, when it doesn't mess with my touch screen configuration where I have to reprogram the taps.

zachofalltrades

08-13-2008, 11:12 AM

1. what bluetooth profiles are supported (A2DP, AVCRP, etc)
2. is anyone else bothered by the apparent lack of a standard 2.5 or 3.5 audio/headset jack?

Deathpoint

08-13-2008, 07:47 PM

If Verizon's version of the Diamond/Raphael really are stripped down like it is rumored and I decide to buy an unlocked CDMA version of one of those phones will I be able to use all of the Verizon network features? Can I get Vpack, visual voicemail etc or am I stuck with a shiny phone that can't even access the 3g coverage provided by Verizon and other added features.

Thanks.

TouchProMoFo

08-13-2008, 11:48 PM

If it's unlocked you should be able to get 3G, as for verizon-specific features I'm not really sure. Only time will tell, depends how easy to unlock it is...

Kronk

08-16-2008, 04:23 AM

NO, even an unlocked HTC Diamond won't work on the Verizon network. They will not port in the ESN/MEID #. It is against the law!!!

Unregistered

08-18-2008, 12:47 AM

If the Diamond will have wifi, can I get internet in hotspots without having a data plan from verizon?

TouchProMoFo

08-18-2008, 06:52 AM

NO, even an unlocked HTC Diamond won't work on the Verizon network. They will not port in the ESN/MEID #. It is against the law!!!

Haha first of all it's not against the law to have a carrier-unlocked CDMA phone... Second, how do people use them if Verizon refuses to port any ESN that isn't a phone made for them? I've seen it done, so please do explain. :)

TouchProMoFo

08-18-2008, 06:52 AM

If the Diamond will have wifi, can I get internet in hotspots without having a data plan from verizon?

In free internet hotspots, yes, you can get internet access even without a data plan from your carrier.

Kronk

08-18-2008, 09:09 PM

Verizon shouldn't be doing that....if they are there is a serious problem.

apb91781

08-18-2008, 09:45 PM

Any Company is capable of using a unlocked phone. Unlocked phones are just ones that are reflashed to another company. Cricket does this all the time with CDMA devices. Only thing is that the phone to be "unlocked" MUST use the same network as the company the person is moving to. It is legal and Kronk, if you think its illegal go into a cricket store and ask them what phones they can flash.

Unregistered

08-20-2008, 06:06 AM

hello,

quick question, does anyone know ATT gonna offer the Diamond or the Touch Pro, if so when?

Thanks

Unregistered

09-23-2008, 09:58 PM

is there any more info out there???
check out the update on this article. i hope its truehttp://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?p=1701582

Unregistered

09-25-2008, 07:37 PM

does anyone know when the htc touch raphael is coming to verizon?
any date at all would be helpful.

natv

10-03-2008, 08:46 AM

Hi guys,

I've been with Verizon for years, but will probably leave them for whoever has the best config of the HTC Touch Pro.

I think it's ridiculous that Verizon cripples their phones.

That being said... from the current info out.. where does it seem will have the best config for the HTC Touch Pro?

Also is there any info/rumours on a launch date for this phone?

Thanks

Unregistered

01-02-2009, 03:46 PM

It takes that split second too long to get anywhere on the phone. It frequently gets jammed, which I could nearly live with if it didn't happen when I'm trying to accept a call.
I press the 'Answer' button... nothing happens, press it again.... nothing happens! This is a very frustrating phone, I keep having to call people back when the phone is having one of its 'moments'!!
I looked up ways to speed it up, turned off error reporting, closed the touch flow application etc. but nothing.
Windows mobile is brilliant - I couldn't live without it at this point, but I need a reliable phone! I am usually easily pleased with new gadgets, but I am on the verge of dumping this junk and going back to a phone and a pda!
Are they all like this or did I just get a lemon?

Not sure I posted this comment in the right place - just needed somewhere to vent my frustration!!